Que muitos ateus estão no armário não é novidade. Mas é particularmente triste quando um indivíduo que era publicamente descrente de uma hora para outra não apenas se diz religioso mas até inventa um passado de religiosidade para criar uma história mais autêntica. Esse parece ser o caso de Sir Anthony Hopkins. Até alguns meses atrás, ele se posicionava como um agnóstico ferrenho, rejeitando o ateísmo forte ("I couldn’t live with that certainty") e advogando a ideia de que a dúvida é inescapável, como deixam bem claro algumas de suas declarações feitas em entrevista à CNN:
"I know atheists, brilliant atheists. I enjoy reading Christopher Hitchens, I’ll examine everything. But, what I enjoy is uncertainty. There’s lines in this movie where I say, ‘Cherish your doubts because there God is hiding.’ I don’t know. You don’t know. None of us know."
"I made a point in The Rite, I was saying to the young priest, ‘So what do you believe in? The truth? Oh, yes, the truth. Look where that got us. Hitler, Stalin – they know the truth.’"
Para deixar bem claro: o ator incluiu no filme uma fala em que o padre que ele interpreta afirma ter dúvidas sobre a crença em deus, e afirmou que o fez porque sua posição pessoal é a de dúvida. Sua declaração pode ser lida no original aqui. Também há uma interessante reportagem sobre o caso no blog paulopes. No entanto, subitamente Hopkins passou de alguém que não apenas não acredita mas condena as certezas e dogmas ("I think it is dangerous. Certainty is responsible for some of the most awful terrors in the world.") a um devoto cristão, por ter sido tirado do alcoolismo.
Para azar de Hopkins, em 31 de janeiro o importante jornal britânico The Telegraph já havia publicado uma entrevista sua em que ele conta que superou o alcoolismo sozinho:
“When I first came to LA in the Seventies,” Hopkins admits, “I was drinking up a storm. Everyone else was doing drugs. But one day I just thought: ‘This is it. No more booze.’ I’d had a couple of warnings. People told me: ‘ You’ve got a nice career ahead of you, you should clean yourself up.’ But I didn’t do it for the work. I did it for me.”Talvez porque suas declarações não foram bem aceitas nos Estados Unidos (onde ele se naturalizou), ou por pressão dos estúdios, ou simplesmente por ganância, no dia 7 de fevereiro essa história mudou radicalmente e, na mesma entrevista a Piers Morgan, da CNN, em que ele firmou sua ausência de crença, ficou assim:
HOPKINS: No, I can't have a cynicism. And I used to be an atheist. I was an agnostic for many years.
MORGAN: What changed? What changed?
HOPKINS: Oh, something, a crisis in my life, some 35 years ago, and I was hell bent on destruction. And I just asked for a little bit of help, and suddenly, pow. It was just like, bingo.
MORGAN: So it's a fact that you, in that moment, as an atheist, you decided to pray to God, did you?
HOPKINS: Oh, I - I did. I was here in New York at the time and I was in desperate straights. I was drinking - couldn't stop. Couldn't stop. And I was - it was like being possessed by a demon, an addiction, and I couldn't stop. And millions of people around like that. I could not stop.
There's no way I could get it, and I suddenly, in Los Angeles, I made that quantum leap when I asked for help. I just found something and a woman talked to me and she said, just trust in God. And I said, well, why not? And was such a quantum leap from this to that.
MORGAN: And did you - did you literally pray? Did you go to a church or the -
HOPKINS: No, I - no, I didn't. I think because I asked for help, which is a form of prayer. Because you - if the ego - if I say, well, I can do it on my own. I can do anything on my own. I can conquer anything. That's nonsense. I can't conquer anything. I don't know you - I don't -
This guy says in the film, I say, I'm weak. I am powerless. I have no power. And I don't know anything. The priest says that's humility.
And I knew a psychiatrist in London who was a priest and I went to him to - I'm looking for guidance once, not therapy, and he said why do you want to become a Catholic. I said, I just need a center in my life. He said, well, think very carefully before you do that. It's a big deal.
He said what is the problem? I said I just feel a bit lost. He said, well, join the human race. And he told me about his own loss of faith, and not being a theologian myself, I thought - I said, what's it like? He said, it's hell. He said but you'll find your way back or you destroy yourself.
Vejam as palavras exatas de Hopkins, minutos antes, sobre sua descrença:
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HOPKINS: We're always looking for proof, certainty. The question is what on earth would do we do if we found it?
COLIN O'DONOGHUE, ACTOR: You?
HOPKINS: Oh, yes. At times I experience a total loss of faith, days, months when I don't know what the hell I believe in, God or the devil, Santa Claus or Tinkerbell. Yet there's something that keeps digging and scraping away inside me. It feels like God's fingernail. And, finally, I can take no more of the pain and I get shoved out from the darkness back into the light.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MORGAN: How much of that is - is you?
HOPKINS: It's all me.
MORGAN: That's what I thought. You put that in there, didn't you?
MORGAN: And is that - and is that because you actually - that's really what you believe yourself?
HOPKINS: That's what I believe in. Well, I have e-mail correspondence with the director from - he lives in England and I live in California. And I said I wanted to give a dimension to this. He is in a lot of conflict himself.
And I said I'd like to add the line atheist, whatever the line is, about skeptics and atheists, how we obviously have a problem, and the young priest says, "You?" I say, "Oh, yes. Every day, many times I lose my faith." And I guess I have an open idea about it all.
MORGAN: Do you believe in God?
HOPKINS: Yes, I do. I do. I'm not an atheist. I don't know what it is. None of us do.
Everything is God. Everything is particle physics. I've read everything I can. I started reading Charles Darwin's "The Origin of the Species" and -
MORGAN: What do you don't like? You don't like absolutism, do you?
HOPKINS: No. No.
MORGAN: You don't - you don't like the sense of somebody being in the right, which tends to be the pretext of - most certainly on the more extreme ends of almost every religions is that they're fundamentally correct.
You don't like that. You think that's dangerous?
HOPKINS: I think it is dangerous. Certainty is one of the most awful terrors of - in the world because people were certain, "I know the truth." I - I made a point in the film, I was saying to the young priest, I said, so what do you believe in? The truth? Oh, yes, the truth. Look where that got us. Hitler, Stalin - they know the truth.
And I know atheists, brilliant atheists. I enjoy reading Christopher Hitchens and - and I'll examine everything. But, what I enjoy is uncertainty.
There's lines in this where I say cherish your doubts because there God is hiding. I don't know. You don't know. You're - you're a good Catholic, I'm sure.
Sem querer, ele escorrega usa a primeira pessoa do plural ("we") para falar de céticos e ateus. Notem: minutos antes ele tinha advogado a descrença, depois o "deus" impessoal de Spinoza e por fim um deus que escuta orações e cura alcoólatras, ao mesmo tempo que nega ser ateu. Será que Hopkins estava confuso sobre o seu passado e sobre suas crenças ou será que ele simplesmente quis criar uma história bonita aos olhos dos crentes, incluindo ainda uma suposta semelhança com possessão? O que é mais provável?